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Wordo fail m• C\ft•r la$t month's meeting. I said it last year, and I
will oay It again, if you mla:s•d last month'o meeting, you mlsHd th• meeting of th• yearl For on• thing, w• had et least three tim.s th• food we had laat year, And the credit this time goecs to
baoe$ a race iitt and did oome other minor modifiocltiono. I atoo want to be our• and thank nono other tha.., Ken Modeen for a job WELL DONE ao Syoop. K•n
did a v•ry good job with th• BBS and I appreolat•d his efforta. Hopefully Ken will find aati5faotlon end happiness In his new •ndtavors. Thank you Kenl
th• •ntir• olub, for EVERY olub member that ohowed up brought aom• edible goodie to share. So, take a minute now to give youreelvee a pet on the baok for a job very well done. Some thankB are in order for last month's meeting. I would like to thank Allen Montgomery for generously providing a turkey and a birthday cake. Allen volunteered these items and I thought it was kind of him to invest his (and his wife's) time end money into our meeting, it made it extra special! (Thank& for 1he wishbone, tool) Also 'thanks to Sherm Erickson and his son, Joe Danko, and Mike Weist for helping me plan the party and set up the hall. Sherm and his son also should be given credit for a wonderful duo-cleanup job after the party diminished. Thanks to Mike Schmidt for printing up a banner and some special DOM discount coupons, the latter which came up on very short notice. Thanks to Ken, Glen and Larry for giving me a hand wi1h the activities of the evening. Speaking of Larry, has anyone called 'the new system? Well, it sure looks good, Larry gave the title screen and messages
I hav• oome ld•ao brewing for th• rest of 'lhe year. I am going to ertttmpt to klok off a SPACE programming team that EVERYONE CM be Involved with, even If you know NOTHING about i:,rogramming. Larry and I have b••n wenting t0 get something lik• thio going for a long time. If aom• of you think 'thet programs ltke Synfif• +, Bt\11-Blazer, or Print-Shop were written by a g'-')' who knew a lot of code, you're mistaken. A i:,rogrammlng operation la uauellly a v•ry big team dort lt'a •nough of a Job juot to program a pl•c• of software, to writ. and dir•ct the i:,roJeot, unless you'r• a gifted lndMduell, b uoualty a job for one or mer. eidelln• p•ople. I have a v•ry .-nbitioua task thet I would Ilk• to get off the ground and I will nHd EVERYONE'o talenta. We will n. .d peopl• who can draw well, people who oan write musio, people who oan do slmple procedureo for others to oam• time, and many other job$ for our programming team. The aoft-
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wart we wrtte will go Into OOM format. and I would Ilk• to adv•rtls. it via tho mail Md hopefl.llly sell it to other olub$ and ATARI owners aoroso 'the 001.1ntry. Now if you think thClt h&\Sn't been clone before, look the next time you boot up DtSKCOMM 1 .3. If MY group OM do something Ilk• that, I know ouro oanl I wlll b• bringing up furth•r details et 1h• meeting. As many of you know, I took a gamble at the last meeting and held a trivia contest Due to an oversight on my part, it almost backfired, but I had many good comments and feedback afterwards. It seemed 1hat many people had enjoyed it, so we will be doing this every month, provided interest holds, but we'll be doing it on a smaller scale and carry it out for 'three months. To do so, we will literally divide the membership up into teams. To find out what all this is about, come to the next meeting, 'the questions are written already, and we are ready to playl That about wraps it up this month. ChristmB& ie going to be another very big meeting, we have some unbelievable raffle prizes in store that are purchB&ed already or set aaide for us. In the coming months, watch for some new things and make an effort to be at 'the meetings. Now is the time more than ever when we need EVERYONE'a support! .,_.appy oomputingl
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SPACf Oisk ltbrary News - Auqust, 1~~1 Disk librarians Joe Uanko/ijien K1rschen1ann h Joe Danko The deg days tf August are u,on us br11g1nq •1th the• no 1,w Atari software. Wbat I have tound is a •igantic de10 progra1 fro1 Holland that see1s to have been released over t•ere so1eti1e in 1989 by so1e teenage hackers, for Septe1btr I ••Pt to have the repaired version of the "ath and Statistics disk and a Disk ot the Month with i1proved 1enus aad t•e •••ugg,, SPACE iadex database proqra1 with up-to-date iadex tilts• There will also be so1e SPACE aser-writtea er ctlltcted ~t• settwart• I just don't •ave eaough tor a c11pltte disk right now. I thought l •ad soaethiag else tar the library, ATAlllNK BBS, a PD bulletin board proqraa •ritt,n in BASIC. Unfortunately. the 1ain progra1 crashes with aa 11t-of-1e1ory err,r tn 1y syste1. I would like to set so1e1ne volaateer t1 ,ive it a try s11ewhert else, It THE BIG DEftO - Aagust, 1991 Requires ATARI ll/lE coaputer ad a 1050 disk drive tr equivalent. lbis IS a really big dtto disk• 1t was put together by a ,r,up 1t tttaage Atari •ackers in Holland about 1989 and fro■ 1tssages in tbt pro9ra1 one can sur1ist that Atari tans i1 E1r1pt caa get ·just as •itrd and obsessive as ia tbt U,S. t•is gr11p also •app11s ta ce1prise saat very taltnttd pre9ra1atrs. T•is tv,r•lown txtrava9anza takes ap beth sides tf a 1050 E••anctd Dt1sity disk (about 260 Kbytes}. 1 a1 aot s,r, ot tht legality of so1t of the 1usic as it was appartatly cracked out at what appear to be others' ga■e sottwar,. r•ert art also tarturously lonq scrolling ■essaqts that coataia a s1all n11ber ot widely vsed but i1polite a,,10-saxon txplttives. Despite all at that 1t ts a pretty sptctaclar dt1a with lots at int,restiaq ■usic and graphics effects. When c•oosi19 soae of the ite■s to run fro■ tbt 1tnas y11 will ti1d that tht sottwart is 1n the back side of t•e disk• Far thtst itt■s tarn tbt disk ever aad tbtn aake the sthction:
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lo order: calt OAftARK at 1-goo-/i~-~000 Order 1te1 No, ~-37~-lijl~04 SI~-~~. 8/H $5.SO, fhe Sllll requ1r,s a sp,c1at handier that 1s derived tro1 the old kv,rter, ihf library Mill have versions ot ~OBlEk" and DlTERII cont1qured to run with the Sl212 direct ta the SIO ~us, lhU1 008 2,0/2,5 there is difficulty loadug auto■atically so each disk has a ■achine lanquage 1enu that is used to load the SX handler and then load the ter11nal prograa. It is also possiblf to run EXPRESS 850 Mith the proper handler and a SX212 but I do not reco11end EXPRESS as it is so■ ewhat ebsel,te and does not support X1ode1-1K or Y1ode1 tile transfers. THl BBS REPORl Atari 8-bit/ST Bulletin Board Syste1 Li,tin9 Editor: Lawrtnct Estep Co1puServe l71450.1050J, GEnie l,ESTEP1
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T•ere •as .,,a c1ite a •it ,t txcitt1e1t lately over the AlARI S1212 fl1de1s ftr salt .y DMARK in the lwin CititS• T•eir catalog ia July listed the SX212 l00/1200 baud 1odt1 t,r •~-99 pl,s tax and •andling. SPACE •as baaght two ot t•e• t, 1st t,r door prizes or auctien 1ater1a1. ftuch ta eur cbagria aid 1t1btr1 qeod fortune tht prier has drepptd t, 119.99 ,1,s tax and handling. I •ave t,sttd tbt 1ode1s with BOBTERfl aid DETERfl on a PrR: Coanectien(likt an 850) and direct•• tht S10 and tht SX212 is an ,xctllant valut• Its 11ly drawback is that thert is only one SlO connector aad only on, phone lint conntctar. rberetore, it you c,nntct to tht S10 directly it ■ust be last on tht str1nq. It does NOr have an 510 cab!t included. Perhaps SPA~£ can •elp ebtain 13-,in S!O ca~les tor those who rtquire so1e, It you havt wai ted to grt starttd in ttltco1aun1cations with y1ur AlARl her, is yoar chance to get a very aseful aodta 1ithout tht txpenst ot an 850 or PR Connection interface,
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f1t1e: Newell lndu5tr1e5 Author: Richard Nier
Newel Industries P.U, SOX 253 Wylie, Tl 750~8
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Nakes several Ne ■ ory Upgrades for the Atari 8b1t and the Sl 1 s, Latest is a lfteq/4Neg upqrade board tor the 1200/800 XL, 65XE and the 130J£. Fully SpartaDOS co1patible, 3,2d and
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litle: Local Uealer ti Author: Nathan Block
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Tennesse,-{TN)-------Kaoxvillf AUG 3/24 (bl~) 691-0113
(Just two blocks w,st ot 35 and Dia■ond Lake) fhe Co1puter Station carries used AlARI 8-Bll co1puter ite1s which hr 1ets in on ca11ission tro■ t11e to ti ■e, It it is an out ot steck titlt, it Aever hurts to giv, hi1 a call, Usually The Co■puter Station has around 40 to 50 AlARl ite■s 011 bind,
Title: Local Dealer 12 Author: Natban Block
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Nr would appretiiltf your to■■ents and ckanges reqarding tbis listing, Please t1r11i1rd the1 to the online services addresses listed above, or to Lawrence Estep an fhe Atari Scene! BBS (502) 456-4292, Copyright 1991 Weather World Preduct1ons 4rink aad drive!
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Title: C11put,r Software Service Auther: Richard Nier c,1puper Software s,rvices, Co■■only known ils CSS, and now owned by Rob,rt Putt (Bob Puff ,t BOBTERft and .,any others), This is their New Address and Phone 1111b,r as of July 1st, 1991,
Budget Co1puters 7160 university Avenue North last frid!ey, ftinnesota 55432 1{6I2)-571-167o Budget Co■ puters otters ■any new IHARI co■puter SOFTWARE 1te1s and carries used AlARI co■puter HARDWARE 1te1s, There are approxi ■ately 100-125 new (tactory seated> ATARI software itr■s on ~and at any given ti1e, New titles arrive irregularily, call about one, ii ■ontb to find out if anvthinq has co■ e in,
Tiu,: SoftNare Author: "ICHAEL FITl~AfRICk
Bellco1 P,O, Box 1043 Peterborouqh, Ontario Canada K9J 7A~
Co1puter SoftNare Services 903 PixlfV Road Rochester, NY 14b24 1(716) 429-5639 BBS (71b) 247-7157 ftaker of the ~lack &ox, the Super Arciver, and ftany Nany ether Hardware/Sottware products,
C&f Co1puterActive l',O, Box 893 Clinton, UK 73601 Both ot these businesses are sottware and pri1arily public do1a1n, They do send free catalogs when requested,
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Titlt: lCD Author: flft GlARlN
l1tle: S£kVlCl/kl~Alk Author: SH[Rft £RICKSON NORTHSTAR "ATkla t~40 kancher's koad Fr1d1ev,"N• 1~5-1015
lCD 1220 Rock Street Rockford, ll 01101
uood peoplt 1helped 1, a tat while searching far into on •v pr1nt,r. A1therized warranty/service tor ~-ltoh a1ong others. Titles Best ilectrenics A1thor: ftICHA£L fITZPAfRICK Best Electro1ics 2021 The Alattda, S1ite :tlO San Jase, CA '15126 (408)/143-6950
teals ,ri1arilly i• repair ,arts; so1e whale units and s•pplies, P1blisbes a catalog
fitle: A•I•"• ftAGAllNE Authe~: ftlCHAEL FITZPATRICK While ftot a dtal,r ot software or ~ardwart and also supportiA! the Atari ST, the •Atari Interface• ftagaz1ne is a 900d source of interesting articles, so1e 8-bit dealers, but 1ost i1portantly other Atari Clubs and their BBS pbone nu1btrs, Alft is published •v= Unicora Publications 3487 Yratburn Circl, Ann Arbor, "l ,ijl08
Title& Gt1tral Auther: "ICHA(l FITZPATRICK Altricaa Tec•na-Vision 15338 Inverness Street Sa• Leandro, CA ~4579
Subscription Rates vary, 1-800-5~1-9995
6entral ,urpest retailer/wholesaler tar •ardwart, sattwar,, s,1e spar, parts. PUblishes a catalog
fitlt: BAC"UN-Sottware Author: ftiCHAll FITZPATRICk Bac1un -Software 1&71 E, lbth St, Suitt b2~ Brooklyn, N,Y, 11219
Title: Retail Dtaltr Author: "JCHA£l FITZPATRICK Co;p:~:r ~,rks 4337 W, Bttha1y Hut Rd Gl11dale, AZ 85301 (lll)246-63b4 Gtntral Purpose rttailtr tor ■any lines of ca1puters, Handles Atari 8-bit, Dots -NOT publish a catalog but will starch fer itt1 rtqaesttd, Handles software/hardware-
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l1tltl to1su1ables Author& ftlCHAEl FITZPATRICK ftll/"icro Center 1100 Stttlwtod Rd, telu1bus 1 OH 43211
Title: S&C C11puttrs Author: ftJCHAll FITZPATRICK
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Htrt 1s the answer to the JULY Word Search, lbere were no einutes sab11tted tor ,ublictat1on, S01e 10 praple wert tn atttndanct tor tht SPACl Birthday ltttiag, Thtrt was a lot ot software and •••ks rattled otf, Lots 1t •••d FOOD!!!
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MATEUR FAIR '91 AIIATEUR FAIR '91 WAS HELD Af ALRICH ARENA JN IIAPLEWUOD, ftN." IT VAS ACOIIBINATION FLEA ftARKEl Mb PEOPLE IN IHE INSIDE MITH NEY ELECTRONIC THINGS TO SELL OR JNFORIIATIOtlAL BOOTH, QUR CLUB ~TA INFORflATIONAL 800TH SPACE, NIKE SCffltlDT, SHERN ERICKSON AND SUN, AND I WERE AT THE ·IOOJH, -tf£ HAD ·PEOPU COflE lO OOR BOOTH TO ASK -QIJESHONS, BUY 1151:, MD PICK UP ftEIIBERSHIP INFORIIATIOtl, 1 WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF IN JHE FUTURE IF WE DON'T GET A FEW NEW ftlft~ER~. IIHEN IT WAS BREAKTlftE FOR ftE I CHECKED OUT THE FLEA IIARKET, I BOUGHl A 800 IL ·FOR t1S OOLLARS, I GOT A G(IOD DlAL, ALSO I LOOKED AT EVERYTHING WAS FOR SALE IN "fHE FLU IIARKET. UN[ OF Jff£ 116 THINGS I LIKE ·ABOUT THESE SHOWS IS TALKING AND LISTENING TO PEOPLE, I IIAS 81SAPPOINTED THAT IIORl SPACE CLUB IIEIIBERS W~REN1 T THERC, DID SEE AFEW PEOPLE L1KE RICH ft£1£k WHO STOPPED Af OUR IIUOTH, PEOPLE! YOU DON'T KNOii THl GOOD TJ~E YOU CAN HAVE AT THE SHOW, IN OCJOBER IS HANHST SHOii, AT THE SHOii lHEY HAD DOOR PRIZES Of ftERCHANDISl,CASH IN THE AIIOUNTS OF S100, S200, t500, WELL WE WERE THERE TILL 3:30PN, LAST Of ALL 1 tlAS IIFMEB THAT ftY COOKIES I BROU6ffl TO THE JULY PARTY WERE 6REAT AND I SHOULD SUBNIT lHE RECIPE 10 THE NEWSLETTER FUR AUGUST '91, SO -HERE IT IS
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